Does the OT teach a future for Israel?
In my last post, entitled ‘A Future for Israel?’, Troy asked an excellent question:
“Why are the quotes from the OT that teach the future restoration of the nation of Israel not valid? And why are they not taken at face value just as the NT quotes?”
Now, Gordan had a great response to this question (see the comment section), and I encourage you to read his comment, but I thought a detailed response here might benefit our readers who don’t usually stray into the comment section.
The question essentially is: what about all of the OT promises that teach a glorious future for Israel?
First, let me remind you to brush up on your Dispensationalism so that you accurately understand how these men interpret scripture.
Secondly, let me say that I do take the OT promises concerning a future for Israel literally, though I clearly let the New Testament define these terms. Let me explain:
To put it in the simple terms, when the Old Testament speaks of Israel, it is speaking of the ‘type’ or ‘shadow’ of God’s chosen people. Israel was chosen out of all the other nations on earth, and God set His special love on them. He delivered them out of bondage and into the ‘promised land’. All of these are figures of how God deals with His elect. Bondage represents our sin, promised land represents the heaven that awaits us, the unconditional ‘choosing’ of Israel represents the unconditional choosing of His elect, etc. Even more so, the imagery gets very explicit and Christ-orientated. The serpent on the pole represents Christ on the cross, the manna represents Christ and the ‘bread from heaven’, the rock represents Christ in ‘living water’, the entire sacrificial and priesthood system represented what Christ does for us now, so on and so forth.
Essentially, the Old Testament uses lots of symbolism in pointing to realities that were to come, and the book of Hebrews is a good place to research this more. But Christ is the ultimate reality to which all of these 'figures' pointed to. This is one reason why the Jews of Jesus’ day missed their Messiah: they were focused so much on the realities in the OT that they missed the truth that the realities OT pointed to! Jesus Himself repeatedly said that the Law and the Prophets all speak of Him. All of the ceremonies, temple, sacrifices, sabbaths, etc., pointed towards what would be a reality in Christ.
Thus, when we get to Israel, we find another ‘type’ and a ‘shadow’ that modern day people focus on instead of the reality to which the term points! Are we honestly going to say that Israel the nation is something special because of bloodline and not because of Christ? No, Israel is simply ‘the people of God’, and nationalities play absolutely no role in the matter once Christ has come. All who are in Christ are in the 'Israel' of God! How can I say this?
-Romans 11:13-24 clearly says that us Gentiles have been ‘grafted in’ to Israel. Does that mean we have replaced Israel? By no means! But we have been joined with Israel in Christ.
-Paul, in Romans 2 says that “no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter.” And to follow that up, in Romans 9 he says “not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but ‘Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.’”.
But how does Paul follow those up? Well, in regards to Romans 2, he says elsewhere in Colossians 2 that ‘In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism…” He also calls the church the “true circumcision” in Philippians chapter 3. And in regards to the Romans 9 passage he follows up the 'not all are of Israel' comment with affirming that it is God's elect who are of Israel when he says, “What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?”
-Peter in 1 Peter 2 calls the gentile church “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession,” This is language used specifically to describe the nation of Israel in the OT. In Exodus 19:6 God says “and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.”
-Jesus states in John 10:16 that, “And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.”
-In Ephesians 2 it says: “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.”
Much more scriptural evidence could be given (for a detailed look at this, see this document), but I hope that this little taste of scripture will show the reader that there is ‘neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.” – Galatians 3: 28.
What are those who are 'Abraham's offspring'? Israelites of course! How can anyone seriously dispute this scriptural truth? It is so crystal clear, but for some reason, just like in Jesus' day, you have people focussing on the temporal instead of the heavenly reality. Just as the author of Hebrews states: "you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem," and a little later..."For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come." (Hebrews 12:22; 13:14)
OT promises concerning Israel are indeed future realities to be hoped for by us, but the authors of the New Testament clearly show that what the prophets had in mind was not a group of people with a certain bloodline, but rather that Israel was a ‘picture’ or a ‘shadow’ of the true people of God: the Israel of God, Galatians 6:16.
SDG


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What an excellent post! I don't think this explanation could be stated in a more clearer and simpler manner. Its hard for me to imagine, no, it blows my mind, that ANY Christian could read this post and walk away without being absolutely convinced that this is indeed the truth of God.
except for the fact there are 'physical' Jews and 'spiritual' Jews. All saved people are grafted into 'spiritual' Israel, but not all Jews are saved.
The Scriptures demand a distinction. Just because a Gentile gets saved and is grafted in, no matter what they may do to their flesh -- they will always be a gentile in their flesh...
In the flesh -- you are either Jew or Gentile. Spiritually speaking, you are either saved or lost...
Anonymous,
I'm curious as to how you think your point (which may be valid) ought to impact the things said in the original post?
And is your point effected at all by the fact that Paul said, "He is not a Jew who is one outwardly..."? Is it possible that rather than "physical" or "spiritual" Jewishness, the Bible teaches that the only real options are "true" and "false?"
I am having a difficulty seeing how your point about Gentile Christians remaining "Gentiles" can possibly survive in the light of the New Testament teaching that in Christ, such distinctions no longer exist? Either in Christ a man remains what he was before, culturally speaking (which seems to be what you're saying, unless I'm not reading you right); or, once saved, the man is a new creation, neither Jew nor Gentile.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on these matters.
God clearly states in many many places He will deal with the Jews in the latter days -- regathering them into the promised land. That is something that will happen -- as a matter of fact it is taking place even now.
Hmmm. Well. I see.
Thank you. Very enlightening.
Ooops. I'm thinking that should've been Eye see.
and I'm supposed to take you seriously? I did enjoy the movie...
God clearly states in many many places He will deal with the Jews in the latter days -- regathering them into the promised land.
Yep, it's called the body of Christ in heaven.
as a matter of fact it is taking place even now.
There are no promises outside of Christ. In addition, if we are joined in Christ, we are 'heirs according to promise', ALL the promises.
Hello
Thank you for explaining it that way, I definitely have a better understanding of the issue now.
what about Ezekiel 37, Zechariah 12-14, Isaiah 27:6? These are not prophecies that are literal? The Hebrew for world, earth, mountains is not even close to 'heaven'...
Anonymous,
By the sound of your statements, it seems to me that you may not have a full grasp of what Nathan is saying in his post. Trust me, all of us at one point were in the same shoes as you are. Because we all had the typical dispensational brainwashing all our lives, it was hard for us to fathom anything outside of that 'hermeneutical box.' Read, study, and prayerfully consider what Nathan has said and I think you may find it to be decisively convincing.
literal first!
allegorical second!!
It will keep you from much error...
literal first!
allegorical second!!
It will keep you from much error...
Nobody is advocating an allegorical method. And 'literal' is certainly a relative term. For example, in Malachi 4 it says: "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes.
Now, Mr. Anonymous, would you like to take that literally? If you do, you will never figure out that John the Baptist was actually Elijah.
CASE IN POINT: The New Testament is a commentary on the Old Testament, not the other way around.
THAT, will keep you from much error...like assigning a future for the nation of Israel instead of understanding that the future is for the 'Israel of God' as we are all 'heirs according to the promise'.
a foot is a 'foot' and the Mount of Olives is a place...
Zechariah 14 is as plain and literal of a passage you will ever read...
Try your best to exegete your way out of it, but try as you may you will only look silly for those things written will come to pass in the future and oh -- Israel is there and they are in their promised land on the earth -- not in heaven
And Elijah is Elijah, no? Unless of course you can point to another OT text that uses that name to describe John the Baptist?
Let us not be like the Jews of Jesus' day, where they were so stuck on the temporal that they missed the spiritual realities.
In fact, Jews today are STILL like that. Have you ever tried to witness to a Jew who knows the OT scripture? They'll take you to all kinds of OT texts that describe the Messiah and the timeframe in which He comes. They will point out to you that absolutely every bit of language used to describe the Messiah's coming and His reign is world's apart from the context in which Jesus came in and now supposedly reigns. They completely miss the true CHRIST because their interpretation of 'literal fulfillment' does not line up with the NT texts that describe much.
Let's get our eyes off of the shadows! We would never re-sacrifice a lamb because the reality (Christ) has already come! Likewise, we should never 'put confidence in the flesh' of the Jews when the reality (the Israel of God and the heavenly Jerusalem) have already come. Did you not read my quotations of Hebrews?
"you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem," and a little later..." For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come." (Hebrews 12:22; 13:14)
Nathan,
I appreciate your Christological lens for interpretation. Truly Christian hermeneutics must view the Scriptures through Christ. It is foundational to understand that the promises of God to Israel in the OT have come to pass in the new Israel - Christ himself! Matthew makes this link throughout, noting especially that Jesus is the "Son of God" (cf. with the OT references to Israel as God's "son"). John probably sees this in referring to Jesus as the "vine" (Jn 15), for in the OT (see esp. Isaiah), Israel is God's vineyard.
Thus, I would argue that the NT authors see fulfillment of the promises to Israel being inaugurated in Christ. However, we must not neglect the already-not yet of the NT teaching as well. The kingdom of God has surely been inaugurated in the life, death, burial, and resurrection of the Christ-Messiah (See Peter's sermon in Acts 2). However, there still remains a consummation at the eschaton.
Perhaps John alludes to this in Revelation where he sees the new heavens AND the new earth correlating together. Thus, at that time he will have given his Son and the people united to him--the new Israel made up of both Jews and Gentiles (by the way, I believe Rom 11:26 to teach a conversion of a large number of ethnic Jews at the return of Christ)-- a tangible world to reign over as vice-regents! Certainly we should see some continuity between the world as it presently exists, and the new creation that will be ushered in the age to come (Cf. as an illustration, the judgment of God in the flood)
Therefore, Nathan, I appreciate your OT interpretation, but before we neglect "anonymous"'s claims to a tangible reality at the eschaton, we must see the already-not yet tension in light of Christ and the consummation that we await, which may testify to some expression of the realities of passages such as Zech 14, etc.
Sorry this is posted as "Other", but I have no blog or google account! However, I shudder at the fact I could not stand up alongside my arguments....so I will surely give you my name. Blessings on you this week!
Harold
Harold,
I aprecciate your attitude and your acknowledgment of some of these precious truths. If I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you are a historical premillenialist (non-dispensational premillenialist). If that's the case, I know where you are coming from, because about 6 months ago, I believed the exact same thing. If you get a chance, I would highly encourage you to take a moment to look at some of the former posts on this very subject. God used the discussions in these posts to help me clearly see and grasp true biblical eschatology; and they have literally revolutionized my knowledge and understanding of Christ and His Word.
Harold,
Thanks for your comment. I agree with most of what you wrote. Personally, however, and this might come out in more detail in a future post, but I do not see any kind of future for Israel out of Romans 11. I just had trouble with all the parables of Jesus and the fact that this future was never mentioned anywhere else in the NT. So, I went to Romans 11 and cleared my mind of presuppositions (I hope I did), and honestly, I don’t see a future for Israel in the text. If we exegete the chapter from beginning to end, not just verses 26-28, then I think the truth is not in a future for an ethnic group of people.
However, as Davide pointed out above, a lot of these issues have been fleshed out here on my blog. I began as a staunch pre-trib, pre-millennian! And as I studied more and more, and kind of shared my thoughts here on the blog, I have moved away from both. The New Testament simply does not teach pre-millennialism, and I believe that is crystal clear (though, admittedly, it is hard to get there when you come from a pre-mill perspective). 1 Cor 15, 2 Peter 3, 2 Thess 2, are just some of the chapters where I believe it is impossible to fit a Millennium in the equation.
Thanks for the comment! And hopefully we’ll get to some of these pertinent questions ‘in the future’ :)
SDG
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